Who would win between Black Caviar and Ka Ying Rising?

48% of Fan Debates voters say Ka Ying Rising, 52% say Black Caviar — one of the closest debates on the site. Black Caviar was undefeated in 25 starts; Ka Ying Rising is unbeaten over 1200m at Sha Tin.

Who was better, the 2000 Essendon or 1995 Carlton?

61% of fans say 2000 Essendon would defeat 1995 Carlton. The Bombers' 27-4 season record and forward line of Lloyd, Barnard and Hird are the key factors cited.

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Who Wins? Black Caviar vs Ka Ying Rising & More

Racing · Head to Head 1200m · Sha Tin Racecourse

Black Caviar vs Ka Ying Rising — Who wins over 1200m at Sha Tin?

Australia's unbeatable mare against Hong Kong's record-breaking sprinting machine. Same track, same distance, peak form. You decide.

Total votes: 18,240 · closes 8 Jun 2026

Venue

Sha Tin

Distance

1200m

Going

Good

Track

Turf

Black Caviar photo

Australia · 2009–2013

Black Caviar

Trainer: Peter Moody · Jockey: Luke Nolen · 25 starts, 25 wins

Career record25 from 25

Best 1200m1:07.98

Peak rating130 (Timeform)

StyleFront-running devastator

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Ka Ying Rising photo

Hong Kong · 2023–present

Ka Ying Rising

Trainer: David Hayes · Jockey: Zac Purton · 20 wins streak

Career record20 straight wins

Sha Tin 1200m record1:07.10

Peak rating130+ (LONGINES)

StyleBlistering mid-race surge

48%

52%

8,760 votes 9,480 votes

CR

Costa Rolfe's Verdict

Black Caviar's record of 25 wins from 25 starts is one of the most extraordinary in world racing. But Ka Ying Rising's unbeaten run at Sha Tin suggests a horse operating at a level we haven't fully measured yet. In a straight sprint at peak form, Black Caviar's combination of raw speed and race intelligence gives her the edge — but it would be closer than the fan vote suggests.

Costa's pick: Black Caviar — by a nose

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AFL · Cross-Era Hypothetical · Who wins on the day?

2000 Essendon vs 1995 Carlton — The Greatest Victorian Premiership Team

The most dominant Bombers side in history against the Blues' record-breaking 16-win juggernaut. Both at their peak, same oval, same conditions. Pick one.

Total votes: 31,680 · closes 15 Jun 2026

2000 Premiers

Essendon

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1995 Premiers

Carlton

2000 Essendon

1995 Carlton

FB

23Hardwick

22Fletcher

11Gleeson

15McKay

4Silvagni

9Dean

HB

7Knott

8Massingham

5Lucas

25Christou

13Sexton

30Manton

C

6Long

14Solomon

39Misiti

19Koutoufides

22Hanna

6Ratten

HF

2Hird

15Mercuri

12Wanganeen

10Spalding

35Clape

41F. Brown

FF

3Barnard

10Lloyd

27Blumfield

5Pearce

2Kernahan

33Whitehead

Followers & Ruck

30Alessio

17Caracella

21Wallis

21Madden

11Bradley

18G. Williams

Interchange

9Bewick

20Peverill

28Ramanauskas

38D. Rice

26Hogg

29Camporeale

2000 Essendon

Kevin Sheedy's juggernaut won 24 of 25 games, averaging 131 points per game. Arguably the most statistically dominant season in VFL/AFL history. Eight players kicked 20+ goals.

24–1

Season record

131

Avg points/game

+60

GF margin

1995 Carlton

David Parkin's Blues were the first team to win 20 home-and-away games. Won their last 16 straight. Greg Williams (5 goals, Norm Smith) and a midfield that simply would not stop.

23–3

Season record

16

Win streak

+61

GF margin

or

61%

39%

19,325 votes 12,355 votes

SL

Sarah Linton's Verdict

Carlton's midfield is elite — Williams, Bradley, Ratten and Koutoufides can match it with anyone. But Essendon's forward line is the difference. Lloyd, Barnard, Hird and Caracella in their 2000 pomp would eventually overwhelm even Silvagni's backline. It'd be a contest for three quarters, then the Bombers pull away.

Sarah's pick: 2000 Essendon — by 3–4 goals

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Makybe Diva vs Kingston Town — Greatest Australian Stayer

Three Melbourne Cups against three Cox Plates. The ultimate staying debate.

Total votes: 41,200 · closed 1 May 2026

The Verdict Is In

67% of fans backed Makybe Diva — the three-time Cup winner wins the argument.

41,200 votes cast

Winner

Makybe Diva

Margin

67% — 33%

Votes

41,200

Closed

1 May 2026

TB

Tom Bourke's Verdict

Makybe Diva's three consecutive Melbourne Cups is an achievement that may never be repeated. Kingston Town was magnificent but the Cup is the Cup.

Tom's pick: Makybe Diva — and the fans agreed

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